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	<title>Idea IS the format &#187; serial killers</title>
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		<title>Still here.</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2010 07:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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(Updated 08/07/10: I&#8217;ve updated this post to omit my shamelessly derivative pithy one-liner, and to include the cartoon it was inspired by, which is far more apt, and was eventually located on the very excellent xkcd.com.)
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<p>(Updated 08/07/10: I&#8217;ve updated this post to omit my shamelessly derivative pithy one-liner, and to include the cartoon it was inspired by, which is far more apt, and was eventually located on the very excellent <a href="http://xkcd.com/707/">xkcd.com</a>.)</p>
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		<title>&#8220;Hateful&#8221;, &#8220;threatening&#8221; and &#8220;obscene&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 17:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dan Light</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This morning I got in to work to discover that Facebook had deleted the page we created to promote UNTRACEABLE (left).
This worked on the basis that we would show more of an extended torture sequence from the movie as the page attracted more fans.
We updated it late last night and sent a mailshot to the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.daniellight.co.uk/uploaded_images/KILL-WITH-ME-Facebook-page-784994.jpg"><img style="float:left;cursor:pointer;margin:0 10px 10px 0;" src="http://www.daniellight.co.uk/uploaded_images/KILL-WITH-ME-Facebook-page-784969.jpg" border="0" alt="" /></a>This morning I got in to work to discover that Facebook had deleted the page we created to promote UNTRACEABLE (left).</p>
<p>This worked on the basis that we would show more of an extended torture sequence from the movie as the page attracted more fans.</p>
<p>We updated it late last night and sent a mailshot to the 300-odd existing fans to tell them that the clip had been extended.</p>
<p>When we got in this morning there was nothing left except a message explaining that ‘pages that are hateful, threatening, or obscene are not allowed’.</p>
<p>As a response to this we today issued <a href="http://www.daniellight.co.uk/PPC%20Untraceable%20PR%202008-02-26.doc">this press release</a>.  The torture sequence can now be viewed <a href="http://195.102.4.175/killwithme/">here</a>, and will be extended as this site receives more hits.  If and when we reach 10,000 we get to show the first 10 minutes of the film.</p>
<p>The movie&#8217;s out on friday.  It&#8217;s going to be fascinating to see what (if anything) happens between now and then.  I&#8217;ll keep you posted.</p>
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		<title>Nobody watches&#8230; nobody gets hurt (pt 2).</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 23:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dan Light</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Please note: this post includes further graphical depictions of violence and torture.

So, where was I? Ah, yes, the point at which Vinvin Skyped me and asked us to kindly stop posting faux snuff movies into their fun-for-all-the-family video blogging community.  He was very charming about it, as you would imagine a proud Frenchman to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.daniellight.co.uk/uploaded_images/DSC00529-707991.JPG"><img style="float:left;cursor:pointer;margin:0 10px 10px 0;" src="http://www.daniellight.co.uk/uploaded_images/DSC00529-707316.JPG" border="0" alt="" /></a><span style="color: #cc0000;">Please note: this post includes further graphical depictions of violence and torture.<br />
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<a href="http://www.daniellight.co.uk/2008/02/nobody-watches-nobody-gets-hurt.html">So, where was I?</a> Ah, yes, the point at which Vinvin Skyped me and asked us to kindly stop posting faux snuff movies into their fun-for-all-the-family video blogging community.  He was very charming about it, as you would imagine a proud Frenchman to be, and was kind enough to compliment us on a job well done.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s probably worth explaining at this point that this activity had been undertaken to promote a movie called <a href="http://www.killwithme.co.uk">UNTRACEABLE</a> on behalf of Universal Pictures, a movie in which a serial killer creates an &#8220;untraceable&#8221; website where he conducts violent and painful murders LIVE on the net.</p>
<p>It transpired that one of the Seesmic moderators had taken rather fervent exception to the nature of the content we were posting, and was threatening to delete both the videos and the account.  Whether this was because she thought she was witnessing a genuine electrocution &#8211; or because she considered our script and special effects to be criminally awful &#8211; is not yet clear.  Whatever the case, the situation had quickly escalated to the point whereby they felt compelled to act.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve since had a good natter, and have some plans for next week, the nature of which will become clear as they unfold.  At their heart: a shared interest in trying to understand what you have to depict in order to cross the line.  Perhaps the Seesmic community holds the answer.</p>
<p>In the mean time, here is the last of the (not so) live webisodes, posted here for posterity, on the back of an agreement not to pollute Seesmic with any more of our horrorshow filth:</p>
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		<title>Nobody watches&#8230; nobody gets hurt (pt 1).</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 01:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dan Light</dc:creator>
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I&#8217;ve just come off a hastily arranged Skype call with  Cyrille de Lasteyrie &#8211; a.k.a. Vinvin &#8211; VP of Seesmic inc.   Alongside Loic Le Meur, Vinvin is one of the co-founders of Seesmic, an invitation-only video blogging community looking set to become [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="color: #cc0000;">Please note: this post includes graphical depictions of violence and torture.<br />
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<a href="http://www.daniellight.co.uk/uploaded_images/seesmic-706911.jpg"><img style="float:left;cursor:pointer;margin:0 10px 10px 0;" src="http://www.daniellight.co.uk/uploaded_images/seesmic-706906.jpg" border="0" alt="" /></a>I&#8217;ve just come off a hastily arranged Skype call with  Cyrille de Lasteyrie &#8211; a.k.a. Vinvin &#8211; VP of Seesmic inc.   Alongside Loic Le Meur, Vinvin is one of the co-founders of Seesmic, an invitation-only video blogging community looking set to become a serious force in 2008.</p>
<p>Loic&#8217;s just published a tidy summary of <a href="http://www.loiclemeur.com/english/2008/02/how-i-started-s.html">the story of Seesmic so far</a>, including details of how they&#8217;ve managed to raise $6 million in initial funding.  All this with a user-base of little more than a 1,000 viewers, and approximately 200 regular contributors, of which I am one.  <span style="font-style:italic;">[UPDATE 15/03/08: Turns out these stats are way out of date - Vinvin has been kind enough to post the latest figures in a comment on this post.  8,000 viewers, 800 very active!]</span></p>
<p>I first spoke to Vinvin a couple of weeks back, after emailing Loic to find out about opportunities for PPC to promote films within Seesmic.  I had one particular campaign in mind, and even went so far as to outline a couple of ideas we were playing around with.  I wasn&#8217;t looking for any explicit endorsement; equally I didn&#8217;t want to act without giving them the heads-up.  Vinvin promptly gave me his blessing, and he was kind enough to throw in a few invitation codes for good measure.</p>
<p>A few days later a new member joined the Seesmic community, going under the name of Sharpeshooter.  This was one of his first posts:</p>
<p><object width="425" height="353"><param name="movie" value="http://seesmic.com/Standalone.swf?video=3DpRoyZW2L"><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"><embed src="http://seesmic.com/Standalone.swf?video=3DpRoyZW2L" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" wmode="transparent" allowscriptaccess="sameDomain" width="425" height="353"></embed></object></p>
<p>In the days that followed Sharpeshooter posted a few dozen times, initiating some discussions and contributing to others, touching on everything from politics to prostitution.</p>
<p>Just before last weekend, Sharpeshooter went quiet.</p>
<p>On tuesday the following clip appeared, posted using his account:</p>
<p><object width="425" height="353"><param name="movie" value="http://seesmic.com/Standalone.swf?video=DifEHtpVOQ"><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"><embed src="http://seesmic.com/Standalone.swf?video=DifEHtpVOQ" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" wmode="transparent" allowscriptaccess="sameDomain" width="425" height="353"></embed></object></p>
<p>This was just two days ago.  The following morning, the hooded figure was back:</p>
<p><object width="425" height="353"><param name="movie" value="http://seesmic.com/Standalone.swf?video=iFE4Jl91Qn"><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"><embed src="http://seesmic.com/Standalone.swf?video=iFE4Jl91Qn" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" wmode="transparent" allowscriptaccess="sameDomain" width="425" height="353"></embed></object></p>
<p>Then, last night, Sharpeshooter suddenly reappeared, albeit under duress:</p>
<p><object width="425" height="353"><param name="movie" value="http://seesmic.com/Standalone.swf?video=atAGyE063v"><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"><embed src="http://seesmic.com/Standalone.swf?video=atAGyE063v" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" wmode="transparent" allowscriptaccess="sameDomain" width="425" height="353"></embed></object></p>
<p>All through last night and this morning clips like this appeared within the public timeline.  Then, at around 6pm this evening, the situation started to change rapidly.  The clips were posted, about 30 minutes apart:</p>
<p><object width="425" height="353"><param name="movie" value="http://seesmic.com/Standalone.swf?video=byEAGQ5F3S"><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"><embed src="http://seesmic.com/Standalone.swf?video=byEAGQ5F3S" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" wmode="transparent" allowscriptaccess="sameDomain" width="425" height="353"></embed></object></p>
<p><object width="425" height="353"><param name="movie" value="http://seesmic.com/Standalone.swf?video=0Pv3DkuYPk"><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"><embed src="http://seesmic.com/Standalone.swf?video=0Pv3DkuYPk" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" wmode="transparent" allowscriptaccess="sameDomain" width="425" height="353"></embed></object></p>
<p><object width="425" height="353"><param name="movie" value="http://seesmic.com/Standalone.swf?video=cXiQc3afra"><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"><embed src="http://seesmic.com/Standalone.swf?video=cXiQc3afra" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" wmode="transparent" allowscriptaccess="sameDomain" width="425" height="353"></embed></object></p>
<p><object width="425" height="353"><param name="movie" value="http://seesmic.com/Standalone.swf?video=KvPMfcm9xg"><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"><embed src="http://seesmic.com/Standalone.swf?video=KvPMfcm9xg" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" wmode="transparent" allowscriptaccess="sameDomain" width="425" height="353"></embed></object></p>
<p><object width="425" height="353"><param name="movie" value="http://seesmic.com/Standalone.swf?video=HlPYRXa8RS"><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"><embed src="http://seesmic.com/Standalone.swf?video=HlPYRXa8RS" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" wmode="transparent" allowscriptaccess="sameDomain" width="425" height="353"></embed></object></p>
<p>It was at this point that I received a very polite email from Vinvin, asking if I could jump into Skype for five minutes&#8230;</p>
<p>TO BE CONTINUED</p>
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